The Anti AI fanatics are soon running out of ways to handle their cognitive dissonance I feel. From an expert on one of the math problems Open AI published solutions to yesterday: "I've seen a lot of clever counting arguments before in graph theory but this is the first time I've seen complex roots and annihilating terms like this, the symbolic manipulation tricks in this look like things out of quantum physics. I don't understand where this trick originated, I need to really digest this." #AI news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…
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they're tryna call it 'synthography' now
"The tech industry won't build this because it turns a 'scalable software' business into a highly disciplined human institution, which scares Wall Street. But from a pure engineering standpoint, it is the only real way to break the algorithmic feedback loop of mediocrity." I proposed to #GoogleGemini on how to flip the paradigm on AI training to create a model that makes fewer errors and hallucinations -- the result of the feedback loop that happens when you keep training on cheap shit. Gemini said Wall Street would hate it even if engineers loved it. :NiceThumb:
thinking about how the current economy might just be the driving force behind most of the population using AI everything is so comically expensive that, when given the option to offload so much work and do so many hobbies for free, why wouldn’t you jump at the chance regardless of the consequences?
It's really ironic how everyone was saying "Play indies and use open source software" right before ai took over every single small project on the internet
Would #AI exist without the funding from billionaires? I mean without the crazy concentration of wealth where people can invest massive amounts and not fear that losing it will impact their lives, how would modern life be different? Any good idea would still happen, just slowly without causing so much disruption so quickly that it can outpace the regulation we eventually decide it needs. The market story is that people are supposed to slowly grow sustainable businesses and face competition.
In the UK a woman who had fled forced child marriage and severe violence, had her asylum claim rejected, the refusal letter appeared to be AI-generated with AI hallucinated references. Imagine this with no recourse. These are potentially life or death situations.
the implications of the ease it takes to reverse engineer stuff using ai programming tools has me really really spooked about a future where the majority of software is streamed
Apparently Grammarly and similar things use enough AI that they are setting off AI detectors. So I asked my students to switch that stuff off, I will take bad grammar over word salad.
would free credits change your stack? i'd still want the paid bill to make sense. anthropic's new startup offer includes $1,000 in api credits for approved companies. that's room to test a small product, though i'd price the same workload without the subsidy before getting attached. would you experiment or fund what already works? [source](techcrunch.com/2026/10/06/anth…)
- @Woot100@void.lgbt
I bet you there's fifteen miles of AIslop behind it these days. Because they think everyone listens to normie music and didn't consider that maybe "guy screaming over five different samples of a trash compactor" would be the sort of situation that requires a human touch. Even before that, though, the second they ended their partnership with Genius Lyrics it was all downhill from there.
So we've had years of AI coding, billions spent in terms of money and man/computing hours, are there any genuinely great AI coded aps yet? Not pre-existing projects now with AI and new bugs, not AI driven retro game ports built on other people's code for other systems that are completely unoptimised and likely never will be, I mean new thing completely from scratch built by AI that people view as a shining example of what it can do.
I think AI as malware is a powerful way to describing it. May have uses in short term but carries the seeds of destruction with it.
Yelling about AI literacy instead of actually holding tech/media companies to account is so exhausting and repeats a tired refrain. First it was media literacy. Then it was social media literacy. Now it's AI literacy. It's not a literacy crisis when the technologies are working as designed.
just as large a competitive advantage for people willing to run a conventional team as before; the important problems are still 99.5% social / collective action; the bots remain quite low quality search procedures incapable of taste or ingenuity. i would prefer to work somewhere that bans them entirely, or forces you to run them in public with a low token cap but once they are normalized it's all over. they are too addictive, tech jobs are too boring, and social coherence is too hard. the techies capable of getting along or organising a large group all cash out early
And heading off the drive-bys: Yes, I absolutely know and understand the arguments against using AI. The work I'm doing is to mitigate the side-effects of an aggressive and haphazard rollout of AI capabilities into federal agencies, which is already happening. This is harm-reduction work that I have an opportunity do in my position near the intersection of AI and the federal government, using the skills and latitude available to me, to influence how others approach their situation. Would you rather no one did this work?
These guys started saying “AI” because it was a cool term from scifi for a thing everyone thought was cool. It became a term for a thing that sucks because they started using it to describe a thing that sucks so bad
when money is on the table, no one is willing to accept there is a ghost in the machine. It's demoralising it took so long.
the problem I consistently have with antis is that I agree with a lot of the things they are upset about but then they start entering The Cope Zone and saying that because AI can cause bad things for society that it is also useless/a scam.
I believe that at some point in the next ten years, a "brain computer interface" will exist that detects some kind of neuron activity, runs it through a machine learning model, and translates it into LLM agent actions. It won't be anything as clean as "you think a sentence and it types it". It will be something one level lower than "prompting an AI". You do some vague mental thing and it translates into a result on the computer. I believe this product will not work, but be sold anyway. (1/2)
To this day the AI doom crowds pretends like there is even the theoretical possibility of AI safety regulation being a bipartisan issue. it’s just so profoundly unserious
The people I agree most with on the likely technical trajectory of "AI" tend to trend much more blackpilled than me on societal implications, and I don't really know what to do about that. Like, it's bad, yeah, but anything that can't go on will stop. And if every decent software developer (used in the broadest possible sense), to take recent example, preemptively leaves the industry, who will be there to right the ship or rebuild, when the {hype,financial} bubble pops?
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Conversely, am I saying the developers should break themselves upon the rocks that are the current, common "AI" adoption stance in most companies? No, I'm saying decent developers should find ways to start building resilient, resistant organizations now. I'm in one. We are not pushing "AI" adoption. We are doing fine. We have many customees apprecisting the things we do, which no LLM could do. The work still exists, let's build a foundation for the future there. This too shall pass, and then what…?
I can't stop thinking about that phone interaction I had earlier and why it bothers me so much. It's the fact it tried to pass as human. And sure, technically it didn't explicitly DENY that it was AI, but the way it *evaded* the question doesn't sit right with me.
If I had a dime for every time I brought up the Therac-25 to a coworker, new hire or intern and they gave me a blank stare because nearly no computer science program has a useful ethics prerequisite, I would have a dime for virtually every person I've ever worked with professionally.
My favourite bit is where “extra lines of code” are touted as productivity gains in software development. No real developer thinks that just producing more code is meaningful. It has to translate to what the customer gets eg more features, less bugs. Thankfully the article points out that the actual returns are marginal.
I think the AI math proofs are good and cool. Like when MRIs allowed doctors to easily see what before they could only guess at.
Y'know what's scary? I sometimes check discussions forums for projects I contribute to in one way or another; and I've noticed that more and more people are starting to *talk like an LLM*, using the same sycophantic phrasing as them. I think LLM usage might actually cause brain damage at this point
Is there a standard "I made this with AI" content warning that we can encourage people to use, so I can filter them out and save the disappointment of finding out halfway through reading about a project? I guess if others choose that as a method, that's up to them, but personally I have very little interest in reading about it from that point onwards. The enthusiasm just drops away sharply for me once that comes out. It seems more and more common in #RetroComputing atm unfortunately.
I'm not sure how we went from needing to write software that we can maintain to hey the ai can generate and probably fix it too, so it doesn't matter what the LOC is or how "good" the code is. Leave me behind please.
You used to be able to google like "I want to know about X" and get a bunch of useful valid search results on the internet and now you get a bunch of random reddit posts, or LLM generate responses that cite random reddit posts
I consider LLMs a good tool for doing things you don't really care about or just want to get done, e.g., writing a one-off powershell script. Anything serious should generally avoid LLM involvement. At the very least, LLMs shouldn't be directly involved in producing the work, and should serve as a quick rough reference instead.
Relishing a little schadenfreude this morning. An acquaintance decided to make an app in Swift (which he has no experience with). He got to a prototype in a week using Claude (idk which model/s). “It’s insane, this is the future.” A month later and it’s still absolutely riddled with bugs and he gets into arguments with Claude. He can’t decipher what’s happening in the codebase. This is the future 😆
“We do not contend that the AI ‘went rogue,’” plaintiffs’ counsel Rod Cooks of Birmingham, Alabama-based Winston Cooks said via email. “Our concern is that the opposite may be true: an AI system can operate exactly as designed and trained while perpetuating patterns of past discrimination.”
Previously, getting that message right could have taken me days or even weeks. I might have asked several people for advice on copywriting, sales, marketing, ethics, and SEO. This time, I could work through those questions myself, with AI's help. 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗺𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁. Someone building something great in their garage now has access, at almost no cost, to capabilities that once required a whole team of professionals.
It low-key surprises me how unity never learns. The engine is so damm good but they're managing it so poorly
Does this also come with an off switch? I'm a fan of AI, and I will even use Claude for a dev project or three, but even that doesn't get unrestricted access to my local system. I do not need an AI agent misunderstanding the instructions I didn't give it and screwing up my screen reader.
this year's literary Nobel should go to whoever figured out how to turn poetry into computer viruses for AI
Im positive at this point that the AI is just meant to frustrate you into hanging up so they don’t have to employ people or provide accountability for shitty products or service. 😭
AI is solving math problems!!!! Ok but can it solve Outlook’s “unexpected error has occurred” which occurs, expectedly, every time you open an email for the first time after booting up? How about a pdf reader that doesn’t just literally not work
I think this is interesting but: 1) time scale of this kind of makes me shrug at the results 2) I think we're in a post code-review world (at least in the traditional sense) and we don't really realize it yet.
I HOPE that AI doesn't replace me with Cory Doctorow; there's already a Cory Doctorow, and he's not that much like me.
There's a new kind of disappointment when someone you like or admire starts heavily using AI. I lose interest in them so fast it's crazy. "Their" craft feels like it's not theirs anymore and so I don't have any reason to be interested in what they do.
Guess the late 90s had this utopian-futurism air to it. At least according to bots.
Sorry to be a broken record but this thread is a perfect example of what Era has become regarding AI. People banned for being too critical towards AI evangelists while said evangelists get to be as rude as they want. Admins openly telling people to "stop derailing" with the criticism. What happened?
The irony of using AI slop to deliver this message is clearly lost on whatever vendor thought this was a good marketing strategy.
Upgraded claude code and it's now boldly prompting me to "switch to auto mode". I guess I will switch, but can't help wondering which is worse: * An AI agent which asks constantly for me to approve bash commands, which then makes me lazy about checking the commands even though I know there's a small chance it might decide to do something bad. * An AI agent which uses another AI agent to check the commands, but which presumably has a small chance of incorrectly letting something bad through!
if humanity ever made real digital artificial intelligence it would probably be the greatest horror man could impose upon another entity... you see, the very frailty of our organic brains protect us from so much, we carry trauma but forget pain, we dream of horror to wake up and face the day fresh, we barely know ourselves and our history, we Hyperfocus on things, and remain blissfully unaware of unfold terrors... now imagine an intelligent mind that cannot know less than everything...
The thing that pisses me off most about generative AI is that it has no sense of humour. I mean, that's just a deal breaker for me.
The source for this claim seems to be enthusiastic about AI somehow though
Knowing exactly how LLMs work and trying to explain to `$RELATIVE` why you can't ask ChatGPT for election guidance makes me realize why Cassandra probably was honestly just fucking relieved to be murdered in the end
